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Aluminum Block - All-Alloy Indian

It ain't cheap, but this 535ci, 650hp Indian could rule the street.

By , Photography by H-o Racing
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Sometimes you just have to go all out. Ken Crocie of H-O Racing has been building big-block Pontiac engines for close to 40 years, most of which have been aimed at the street, as is this engine. While front-end weight is a concern in drag racing, it's much more critical when turning corners. Today, the most popular ploy when building a road car is to use an enhanced, all-aluminum LS engine. Crocie's customer wanted to keep his '78 Trans Am purely Pontiac by building a big--no, make that very big--all-aluminum Pontiac engine. Big in this case refers to a 4.50-inch stroke and 4.35-inch bore motor that displaces a whacking 535 inches. But even more comforting than the displacement is the distinct lack of cast iron. This rascal is pure aluminum. Frankly, if an aluminum crank could survive the rigors of 690 lb-ft of twist and 6,000 rpm, Crocie would have bolted one in. Virtually everything else that found its way into or onto this big Indian is aluminum--right down to the connecting rods, rocker arms, and even the carburetor. The payoff to all this alloy happened once Crocie put the engine on the scale. In fact, they had to calibrate it to double check the numbers, as its bantam weight of 415 pounds with a carburetor and a Powermaster starter motor seemed unbelievably light.

So what does it take to build an all-aluminum, big-inch Pontiac engine? Crocie documented the buildup with more than 250 photos we've condensed down to a manageable number to tell the story. When building a custom engine like this, it's not as easy as just bolting all the parts together. What's a little scary is whittling away on a $4,500 block to make everything fit.

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    The KRE MR-1A block offers strengthening ribs in the lifter valley and nodular iron cylinder liners along with steel four-bolt splayed main caps that keep the bottom end glued together. KRE also offers an iron version that is a bit more affordable.
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    The KRE MR-1A block offers strengthening ribs in the lifter valley and nodular iron cylind
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    Building a custom engine like this requires several mock-up sessions to ensure all the parts avoid those nasty knocking noises. Crocie used ARP fasteners throughout the engine, including in the main caps.
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    Building a custom engine like this requires several mock-up sessions to ensure all the par
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    Crocie had to modify all eight nodular iron-bore sleeves with an elliptical notch to clear the larger aluminum connecting rods.
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    Crocie had to modify all eight nodular iron-bore sleeves with an elliptical notch to clear

The Short-Block

A good aluminum Pontiac block is not as difficult to find as you might think. Kauffmann Racing Equipment (KRE) sells an alloy block that accepts all the standard Pontiac components and even offers a few fringe benefits. Foremost is the capacity for a fat bore. A 455 Pontiac employs a 4.155-inch bore, while Crocie spec'd an amplified 4.35-inch version (4.375 is the max recommended bore size). Stock 455 stroke is 4.12, which was leveraged to 4.50 inches. To compensate for those big Pontiac journal sizes, you can option your MR-1A block with smaller, 3-inch mains instead of the larger, 3.25-inch size.

Ensuring all the parts play well with each other is also a major concern with an engine like this. Crocie had to notch the cylinder liners at the bottom to clear the connecting rods, drill coolant passage holes in the block deck surface, and clearance the block in several places to be able to spin that long-stroke Scat crank without interference. In addition to the Ross pistons, he also added a 1/16-, 1/16-, 3/16-inch ring set from Total Seal using a standard-tension oil ring set, since this motor will see plenty of track time.

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    He drilled oil drains between the lifter pairs and added vent tubes to minimize oil drainage over the cam and crankshaft that causes windage problems. Note the MR1-A block optional bronze lifter bushings.
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    He drilled oil drains between the lifter pairs and added vent tubes to minimize oil draina
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    He drilled oil drains between the lifter pairs and added vent tubes to minimize oil drainage over the cam and crankshaft that causes windage problems. Note the MR1-A block optional bronze lifter bushings.
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    He drilled oil drains between the lifter pairs and added vent tubes to minimize oil draina
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    Home garage hero! Another modification required drilling steam holes to match the cylinder heads and head gaskets to maintain proper cooling for this street/track engine.
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    Home garage hero! Another modification required drilling steam holes to match the cylinder

Cam Duration Lift Lobe Separation
P8 3318S/3319S HR112 at 0.050 at 1.65:1
Intake lobe 3318 248 0.619 112
Exhaust lobe 3319 254 0.639

Top-End Tricks

Following the initial plan, Crocie sent the Edelbrock Performer RPM semi- finished heads to Dave Bisschop at SD Performance in Canada. He also added Ferrea valves, Comp valvesprings, Comp gold 1.65:1 rockers, and a billet roller timing set with a brass thrust washer to prevent the steel timing gear from eating the mild steel thrust plate. There were a lot of teething pains, like making sure the water pump cleared the timing cover, ensuring the valvetrain functioned properly, and even using a feeler gauge to make sure the poly locks cleared the slot in the rocker arms. All these little things demand an enormous amount of time when assembling any custom engine. The cost for assembling an engine like this might seem excessive, but Crocie says he probably preassembled this engine several times, checking clearances and measuring for components such as proper pushrod length. Slap it together hastily and it probably won't live very long.

Cam Specs

Most cam manufacturers, including Comp Cams, offer many more lobe designs in a specialty lobe catalog. Crocie chose the lobe and had Comp build a custom grind with the following specs.

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    Aluminum rods are not normal fare for street engines, but Bill Miller contends that these rods will live as long as typical steel rods. Crocie spec’d their length at 6.700 inches using a standard big-block Chevy rod journal and wristpin diameters. The Ross pistons helped create an 11:1 compression ratio when matched with the 70cc combustion chambers. The photo also shows the Mellings aluminum oil pump.
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    Aluminum rods are not normal fare for street engines, but Bill Miller contends that these
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    A long time ago, H-O Racing built a camshaft-checking tool that allows Crocie to check lift, duration, and base circle runout (important for any valvetrain) for every lobe on the camshaft. The tool allows him to verify each lobe of the camshaft and ensure that all the lobes are in their proper positions.
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    A long time ago, H-O Racing built a camshaft-checking tool that allows Crocie to check lif
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    When the heads came back from a session in SD Performance’s CNC machine, the ports flowed 345 cfm at 0.600-inch valve lift. The valve sizes are 2.25/1.71 inches and are controlled by a set of Comp 996 dual springs.
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    When the heads came back from a session in SD Performance’s CNC machine, the ports flowed
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    Despite the roller cam’s serious nature, Crocie went with a straight set of stud-mounted Comp 1.65:1 roller rockers set in 7⁄16-inch studs. With more than 0.600 inch valve lift, neither a stud girdle nor a shaft rocker system was necessary.
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    Despite the roller cam’s serious nature, Crocie went with a straight set of stud-mounted C
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    Valvetrain stability starts with proper pushrod length. Crocie used an adjustable pushrod to minimize travel across the tip of the valve. Even with mild valve lift, pushrod length is critical for durability. Because of the small-diameter 5⁄16-inch pushrods, he opted for 0.116-inch-thick-wall Smith Bros. pushrods exactly 9 inches in length. Note that at max lift, the roller tip is very close to the valve tip centerline.
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    Valvetrain stability starts with proper pushrod length. Crocie used an adjustable pushrod
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    Because of limited hood clearance, the Torker II intake was the only available choice. Crocie discovered the manifold ports were too short for the CNC ports in the heads and required TIG-welding raised port tops in the intake, which then needed to be machined flat and port-matched.
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    Because of limited hood clearance, the Torker II intake was the only available choice. Cro

Dyno Day

For any engine builder, test day is always accompanied by a weird combination of anticipation and a tiny thread of dread. There's always that little voice in the back of your head that asks, Did you remember everything? But you're also hoping for a good number, even if you've built this same engine a dozen times.

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Right: This large-by-huge alloy Pontiac appears to be benign, but nearly 700 lb-ft of torque will be plenty to move that big ’78 Firebird. This photo shows the testing of the Dominator carb and single-plane intake (Test 2), which actually made less torque and horsepower than the Torker II!
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Right: This large-by-huge alloy Pontiac appears to be benign, but nearly 700 lb-ft of torq

In Crocie's case, the goal wasn't as much a hero horsepower number as it was a huge payoff in torque. The engine's large displacement promised massive torque potential, and it did not disappoint. When your pump-gas street engine can churn and burn to the tune of 690 lb-ft of torque at a tractor-like 4,400 rpm, the biggest question becomes one of whether the tires will grip. Horsepower was a winning effort, with a max power of 652 hp at a very manageable 5,400 rpm. Long-arm engines can really tax those pistons if you spin them up too high, but with this beast there's little reason to spin it beyond 5,800 rpm. We dialed in a 3,300-pound car, a manual trans, and 3.42:1 gears into the Quarter Jr. dragstrip simulation program, which estimated 10-flat at 136 mph. Sweet! Just thinking about how this big motor would push us back in the seat at 60 mph in high gear is tantalizing. Where do we sign up for a quick lap?

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The Quick Fuel 850 carburetor was more than enough to feed 650 hp.

Dyno Testing

Test 1 turned out to be the best of the three tests Ken performed. This configuration used an Edelbrock Torker II intake with an 850-cfm Quick Fuel carburetor. Test 2 used a Victor single-plane intake with a larger, 1,150-cfm Dominator carburetor, while Test 3 used a Performer RPM dual-plane with the same 850-cfm Holley used in Test 1, but neither Test 2 nor 3 improved the overall power as evidenced by both average torque and average horsepower.

RPM TQ1 HP1 TQ2 HP2 TQ3 HP3
3,000 578 330 571 326 607 347
3,200 602 367 591 360 632 385
3,400 624 404 613 397 648 419
3,600 652 447 633 434 668 458
3,800 661 478 650 471 676 489
4,000 667 508 658 501 674 513
4,200 684 547 669 535 669 535
4,400 690 578 670 561 660 553
4,600 686 601 667 584 648 567
4,800 680 621 659 603 635 580
5,000 673 641 647 616 619 589
5,200 652 645 629 623 601 595
5,400 635 652 616 634 581 597
5,600 610 651 603 643 559 596
5,800 - - 582 643 530 586
Peak 690 652 671 643 676 597
Averages 651.8 535.4 636.0 521.9 636.1 518.0
*This list is not a complete accounting of all components, but the total cost is accurate.

SOURCES
Automotive Racing Products
1863 Eastman Ave
Ventura
CA  93003
800-826-3045
www.arp-bolts.com
Kauffman Racing Equipment (KRE)
Glenmont
OH
740-599-5000
www.krepower.com
Edelbrock
2700 California St.
Torrance
CA  90503
310-781-2222
www.edelbrock.com
Comp Cams
3406 Democrat Road
Memphis
TN  38118
800-999-0853
www.compcams.com
H-O Enterprises
Rancho Cucamonga
CA
909-980-1451
www.hoenterprises.com
Summit Racing
PO Box 909
Akron
OH  44398
800-320-3030
www.summitracing.com
Ross Racing Pistons
625 S. Douglas Street
El Segundo
CA  90245
800-392-7677
www.rosspistons.com
BOP Engineering
N3651 Schmidt Rd
Jefferson
WI  53549
920-674-6058
www.bopengineering.com
SD Performance
Chilliwack
AK
604-392-2211
www.sdperformance.com
Quick Fuel Technology
129 Dishman Lane
Bowling Green
KY  42101
270-793-0900
www.quickfueltechnology.com
Total Seal Inc
22642 North 15th Avenue
Phoenix
AZ  85027
800-874-2753
www.totalseal.com
Butler Performance
866-762-7527
http://www.butlerperformance.com
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